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		<title>By: bill mulheran</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill mulheran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for all the advice.
i have decided on cinelli alloy bars, stem and post for strength and stiffness.
with the wheels it was a tough decision, but i went with G for the ventos because of his weight. i also couldn&#039;t find a set of kysriums (i don&#039;t even know how to say that) at the right price.
once my weight is down a bit i&#039;ll proobably try a set and build a &quot;summer&quot; bike.
thanks again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for all the advice.<br />
i have decided on cinelli alloy bars, stem and post for strength and stiffness.<br />
with the wheels it was a tough decision, but i went with G for the ventos because of his weight. i also couldn&#8217;t find a set of kysriums (i don&#8217;t even know how to say that) at the right price.<br />
once my weight is down a bit i&#8217;ll proobably try a set and build a &#8220;summer&#8221; bike.<br />
thanks again</p>
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		<title>By: glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am in the weight range, and the Mavic rims are fine, go with the higher spoke count.  I have broken some along the way, more at first rather than in the last couple of thousand mile.  I could only get about 800 km on some of the &#039;normal&#039; tires.  I am a firm believer in the Specialized Armadillo tires.  They truly are amazing tires.  I used to get lots of glass and change/repair every 800 km or so.  Can now go 2000 km on a set of them and may never have a flat.  They are as close to bullet proof as I have found.   I dont even bother with anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am in the weight range, and the Mavic rims are fine, go with the higher spoke count.  I have broken some along the way, more at first rather than in the last couple of thousand mile.  I could only get about 800 km on some of the &#8216;normal&#8217; tires.  I am a firm believer in the Specialized Armadillo tires.  They truly are amazing tires.  I used to get lots of glass and change/repair every 800 km or so.  Can now go 2000 km on a set of them and may never have a flat.  They are as close to bullet proof as I have found.   I dont even bother with anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carbon Bars

I am on my second Carbon Bar. My first was a Specialzed Sworks ergo. I am 250 lbs and found the bar to be very stiff but forgiving for road vibration. I recently fell over and broke the bar at the bend. If it had been alloy it would have bent. Either way i would have had to replace the bar.  as a replacement I choose a 3TTT ergosum Team carbon. It is less stiff than the Specialized but I like the shape better. I have had an alloy Ritchey WCS in the past...Hated it. As for stems. Carbon Stems are over-priced and dont provide any added value other than appearance. I paired my new 3TTT bars to the 3TTT team stem which is alloy w/titanium bolts. This seams to be an ideal combination.

As for wheels...So many choices. I ride Mavis Kysrium SL. Bomb proof wheels on every lousy stretch of pavement there is. I would not pay the rediculos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carbon Bars</p>
<p>I am on my second Carbon Bar. My first was a Specialzed Sworks ergo. I am 250 lbs and found the bar to be very stiff but forgiving for road vibration. I recently fell over and broke the bar at the bend. If it had been alloy it would have bent. Either way i would have had to replace the bar.  as a replacement I choose a 3TTT ergosum Team carbon. It is less stiff than the Specialized but I like the shape better. I have had an alloy Ritchey WCS in the past&#8230;Hated it. As for stems. Carbon Stems are over-priced and dont provide any added value other than appearance. I paired my new 3TTT bars to the 3TTT team stem which is alloy w/titanium bolts. This seams to be an ideal combination.</p>
<p>As for wheels&#8230;So many choices. I ride Mavis Kysrium SL. Bomb proof wheels on every lousy stretch of pavement there is. I would not pay the rediculos</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
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		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the tyres, I ran Bontager Racelite Hardcase for thousands of miles and had no punctures. They lasted forever. On my winter ride I run a 23cc Vredestein Volante Tricomp with a 25cc Panaracer Extreme Duro protex on the rear.

I am 107 kgs and those tyres are absolutely fine. I&#039;d suggest a 25cc rear for you at this time, and make sure you keep both pumped up to the allowable limit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the tyres, I ran Bontager Racelite Hardcase for thousands of miles and had no punctures. They lasted forever. On my winter ride I run a 23cc Vredestein Volante Tricomp with a 25cc Panaracer Extreme Duro protex on the rear.</p>
<p>I am 107 kgs and those tyres are absolutely fine. I&#8217;d suggest a 25cc rear for you at this time, and make sure you keep both pumped up to the allowable limit.</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
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		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You lightweights! Bow to the heavy mob! I was 130kgs, that&#039;s well over 20 stone of ex rugby playing, body builder. I am 6&#039;4&quot; tall. I stopped it all when I hit 38 years old and started road biking rather than mountainm biking.

I have used, without any problems whatsover, two sets of wheels. Never had a broke spoke, bent rim or any other wheel problems, and have gone through potholes and jumepd kerbs aplenty!

On my Carbon summer bike I have a Campagnolo Vento G3 wheelset with 24 spokes on the front and 27 on the rear. You can get these at a little over £100 off ebay or online stores.

On my steel winter bike/commuter I have a set of Rhodi Airline Evolution, 32 front and rear. You can source these from Kinetic-One or ebay at about £120 a set.

Neither are super light, but that shouldn&#039;t be your primary concern at this moment.

(I did prang a set of FSA wheels that had a 20 front, 24 rear spoke setup. One spoke snapped on the rear when I went through a pothole on my way into the wilds of Essex!)

At a mere 17 stone, I can assure you that either of the wheelsets I have suggested will carry you with no problems whatsoever. Campagnolo Khamsins would also serve you well.

I concur with the experts, and would suggest that you have minimum of 27 rear. On the fron, which shoulders far less of the weight, you would be safe with a 20 spoke pattern.

I am now going to get a lighter set for my summer ride as the muscle weight I built up over the years drops off.

You will be fine, and I wish you very good luck wit your new passion. It will grab you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You lightweights! Bow to the heavy mob! I was 130kgs, that&#8217;s well over 20 stone of ex rugby playing, body builder. I am 6&#8217;4&#8243; tall. I stopped it all when I hit 38 years old and started road biking rather than mountainm biking.</p>
<p>I have used, without any problems whatsover, two sets of wheels. Never had a broke spoke, bent rim or any other wheel problems, and have gone through potholes and jumepd kerbs aplenty!</p>
<p>On my Carbon summer bike I have a Campagnolo Vento G3 wheelset with 24 spokes on the front and 27 on the rear. You can get these at a little over £100 off ebay or online stores.</p>
<p>On my steel winter bike/commuter I have a set of Rhodi Airline Evolution, 32 front and rear. You can source these from Kinetic-One or ebay at about £120 a set.</p>
<p>Neither are super light, but that shouldn&#8217;t be your primary concern at this moment.</p>
<p>(I did prang a set of FSA wheels that had a 20 front, 24 rear spoke setup. One spoke snapped on the rear when I went through a pothole on my way into the wilds of Essex!)</p>
<p>At a mere 17 stone, I can assure you that either of the wheelsets I have suggested will carry you with no problems whatsoever. Campagnolo Khamsins would also serve you well.</p>
<p>I concur with the experts, and would suggest that you have minimum of 27 rear. On the fron, which shoulders far less of the weight, you would be safe with a 20 spoke pattern.</p>
<p>I am now going to get a lighter set for my summer ride as the muscle weight I built up over the years drops off.</p>
<p>You will be fine, and I wish you very good luck wit your new passion. It will grab you!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Russi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Russi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sam

In response to the heavy rider, I have been around 110kg to 125kg, and my
Mavic Ksyrium SL road wheels on my Giant TCR0 Composite, 2004 model road
racer have served me very well. I have done over 16,000km on the wheels and
still in good condition and perfectly round. Naturally I do not go looking
for potholes, drain grates, and take it easy crossing railway lines, but so
far so good. The flat bladed zicral spokes add much needed strength to the
wheel reducing side flex.

My riding buddy has a Campagnolo Zonda wheel, and the manufacturer would not
guarantee the wheel above 80kg rider weight.

Hope this helps.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sam</p>
<p>In response to the heavy rider, I have been around 110kg to 125kg, and my<br />
Mavic Ksyrium SL road wheels on my Giant TCR0 Composite, 2004 model road<br />
racer have served me very well. I have done over 16,000km on the wheels and<br />
still in good condition and perfectly round. Naturally I do not go looking<br />
for potholes, drain grates, and take it easy crossing railway lines, but so<br />
far so good. The flat bladed zicral spokes add much needed strength to the<br />
wheel reducing side flex.</p>
<p>My riding buddy has a Campagnolo Zonda wheel, and the manufacturer would not<br />
guarantee the wheel above 80kg rider weight.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill -  I made the same transition about 6 years ago.  I was ~240 lbs (17 stones) &amp; had the same concerns, especially with the wheels.  I have averaged a bit over 3000 km per year on my road bike since then and have dropped 4 - 5 stones.  I selected Mavic Ksyriums (SLs) which have been bullet proof.   They have required basically zero maintenance / trueing during that time.  I am on the second set of carbon wheels on my cross bike during the same period with similiar usage.   I ride basically the same routes with each cycle so not much difference in road surfaces, pot holes, etc.    

I also have carbon bars (Kestrel) with an aluminum stem and a carbon frame.  Again, no problems.  I did notice more flex in the bars with my higher weight so I adjusted my riding position to reduce the weight I put on the bars.   

My real problem in the beginning was with tires.  They required replacement wih less than 1500 km when I was heavier.  I am now getting a season or more before I am seeing wear deeming replacement.  I would suggest looking at heavier duty touring rather than racing tires until you shed some weight. 

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill &#8211;  I made the same transition about 6 years ago.  I was ~240 lbs (17 stones) &amp; had the same concerns, especially with the wheels.  I have averaged a bit over 3000 km per year on my road bike since then and have dropped 4 &#8211; 5 stones.  I selected Mavic Ksyriums (SLs) which have been bullet proof.   They have required basically zero maintenance / trueing during that time.  I am on the second set of carbon wheels on my cross bike during the same period with similiar usage.   I ride basically the same routes with each cycle so not much difference in road surfaces, pot holes, etc.    </p>
<p>I also have carbon bars (Kestrel) with an aluminum stem and a carbon frame.  Again, no problems.  I did notice more flex in the bars with my higher weight so I adjusted my riding position to reduce the weight I put on the bars.   </p>
<p>My real problem in the beginning was with tires.  They required replacement wih less than 1500 km when I was heavier.  I am now getting a season or more before I am seeing wear deeming replacement.  I would suggest looking at heavier duty touring rather than racing tires until you shed some weight. </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill;
I am about 15 stone (if my conversion are correct, 220lbs) and I use Zipp 303 clinchers with Chris King hubs and DT Swiss spokes - custom built.   For a handlebar  I have Easton carbon.  The Zipp wheels make all the riding difference in the world.  Much, much improved over my previous Mavic metal wheels on my former bike.  If you can afford the Zipp 303 they are the best hands down... The Easton handle bars are confortable and do provide some flex.  They have a flat area to rest your hands when riding upright.  I would recommend them.  Get the Zipp carbon fiber end caps for the handlebars, they are not expensive and look great.  Frame MOOTS titanium, drive train SRAM red.

Regards,
Gary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill;<br />
I am about 15 stone (if my conversion are correct, 220lbs) and I use Zipp 303 clinchers with Chris King hubs and DT Swiss spokes &#8211; custom built.   For a handlebar  I have Easton carbon.  The Zipp wheels make all the riding difference in the world.  Much, much improved over my previous Mavic metal wheels on my former bike.  If you can afford the Zipp 303 they are the best hands down&#8230; The Easton handle bars are confortable and do provide some flex.  They have a flat area to rest your hands when riding upright.  I would recommend them.  Get the Zipp carbon fiber end caps for the handlebars, they are not expensive and look great.  Frame MOOTS titanium, drive train SRAM red.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Gary</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am 16 1/2 stone and i bought a focus cayo from wiggle it comes with shimano wheels which ones im not sure but if you check out their web it will tell you.They changed wheels recently on the focus as  the ones they were using were only any good for about 75 kilo (WE wish).The new ones are rated at 100 kilos so should be ok.Ive done about 600 miles so far so maybe a bit early to tell but its a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 16 1/2 stone and i bought a focus cayo from wiggle it comes with shimano wheels which ones im not sure but if you check out their web it will tell you.They changed wheels recently on the focus as  the ones they were using were only any good for about 75 kilo (WE wish).The new ones are rated at 100 kilos so should be ok.Ive done about 600 miles so far so maybe a bit early to tell but its a thought.</p>
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