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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-3412</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 08:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John, thanks for the comment with all specs. I completely agree with you, there is no need to spend 11000$ in a bike to love this sport. You can submit all your photos in your community profile, simply login to your account and click on add photo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John, thanks for the comment with all specs. I completely agree with you, there is no need to spend 11000$ in a bike to love this sport. You can submit all your photos in your community profile, simply login to your account and click on add photo.</p>
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		<title>By: John Inman</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-3380</link>
		<dc:creator>John Inman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 01:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I paid $1195. Got carried away with the 9&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I paid $1195. Got carried away with the 9&#8242;s.</p>
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		<title>By: John Inman</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-3379</link>
		<dc:creator>John Inman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 01:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received my Motobecane Century Comp 55cm on 9/20/2011, my birthday. Very easy to assemble. I am baffled about concerns about the Motobecane. The full component set minus the frame retails out at almost $1570, the list for the bike is $1200. As far as I am concerned I got the frame, Monocoque High-Modulus Carbon Fiber frame and High-Modulus Carbon Fiber fork, for free plus a discount. I wanted a complete SRAM APEX 50/34t component set and this bike has it. I have ridden 400 miles and I am loving it. I am 59 and do not need to be in a $11,000 bike. My body cannot perform as well as this bike does. With peddles, pump, water holders etc., weighs in at just under 20 pounds. I could drop a pound in wheels to get better performance, but really do not see the need. I will be glad to send a picture if you will tell me how. Here is the components list in full:

Motobecane Century Comp 55cm

SRAM Apex WiFli Component Group – 3202 grams – List $861
Shift/Brake levers: SRAM Apex Double Tap, double compatible only (344g per pair)
Rear derailleur: SRAM Apex mid-cage  MC - 210g
Front derailleur: SRAM Apex Zero Loss, 31.8mm clamp-on or 34.9mm clamp-on (CO - 103g)
Cassette: PG-1050, 11-32 - 299g
Brake calipers: SRAM Apex Skelotonized Dual Pivot (306g per pair)
Crank set: SRAM Apex GXP 50/34 (890g - including GXP bottom bracket)
Bottom bracket: SRAM Apex GXP
Chain: SRAM Apex PG-1050
Shimano R500 Wheelset – 1884 grams – List $199
FSA Orbit IS Integrated Headset – 62 grams – List $50
Saddle – Ritchey Streem – 220 grams – List $70
Seat post - FSA FR 270 – 235 grams – List $99
Stem – Ritchey Comp 4 – 150 grams – List $50
Handlebars – Ritchey Comp SingleButted  Biomax – 240 grams – List $85
Pedals – Wellgo RC-713 SPD – 310 grams – List $75 (came with bike)
Tires – Continental UltraSprot 700x23c – 310 grams x 2 – List $28 x 2
Tubes – Continental Race 28 – 105 grams x 2 – List $ $10 x 2
Frame – 2.8 Pound Monocoque High Modulus Carbon Fiber Semi-Compact AND – 1270 grams
Fork – Monocoque High Modulus Carbon fiber 

8408 grams or 18.1 pounds

List price for components without frame set is $1570, I paid $1995 for the complete bike with pedals

I paid 20% less for the whole bike than I would have paid for just the components without the frame set at list price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received my Motobecane Century Comp 55cm on 9/20/2011, my birthday. Very easy to assemble. I am baffled about concerns about the Motobecane. The full component set minus the frame retails out at almost $1570, the list for the bike is $1200. As far as I am concerned I got the frame, Monocoque High-Modulus Carbon Fiber frame and High-Modulus Carbon Fiber fork, for free plus a discount. I wanted a complete SRAM APEX 50/34t component set and this bike has it. I have ridden 400 miles and I am loving it. I am 59 and do not need to be in a $11,000 bike. My body cannot perform as well as this bike does. With peddles, pump, water holders etc., weighs in at just under 20 pounds. I could drop a pound in wheels to get better performance, but really do not see the need. I will be glad to send a picture if you will tell me how. Here is the components list in full:</p>
<p>Motobecane Century Comp 55cm</p>
<p>SRAM Apex WiFli Component Group – 3202 grams – List $861<br />
Shift/Brake levers: SRAM Apex Double Tap, double compatible only (344g per pair)<br />
Rear derailleur: SRAM Apex mid-cage  MC &#8211; 210g<br />
Front derailleur: SRAM Apex Zero Loss, 31.8mm clamp-on or 34.9mm clamp-on (CO &#8211; 103g)<br />
Cassette: PG-1050, 11-32 &#8211; 299g<br />
Brake calipers: SRAM Apex Skelotonized Dual Pivot (306g per pair)<br />
Crank set: SRAM Apex GXP 50/34 (890g &#8211; including GXP bottom bracket)<br />
Bottom bracket: SRAM Apex GXP<br />
Chain: SRAM Apex PG-1050<br />
Shimano R500 Wheelset – 1884 grams – List $199<br />
FSA Orbit IS Integrated Headset – 62 grams – List $50<br />
Saddle – Ritchey Streem – 220 grams – List $70<br />
Seat post &#8211; FSA FR 270 – 235 grams – List $99<br />
Stem – Ritchey Comp 4 – 150 grams – List $50<br />
Handlebars – Ritchey Comp SingleButted  Biomax – 240 grams – List $85<br />
Pedals – Wellgo RC-713 SPD – 310 grams – List $75 (came with bike)<br />
Tires – Continental UltraSprot 700x23c – 310 grams x 2 – List $28 x 2<br />
Tubes – Continental Race 28 – 105 grams x 2 – List $ $10 x 2<br />
Frame – 2.8 Pound Monocoque High Modulus Carbon Fiber Semi-Compact AND – 1270 grams<br />
Fork – Monocoque High Modulus Carbon fiber </p>
<p>8408 grams or 18.1 pounds</p>
<p>List price for components without frame set is $1570, I paid $1995 for the complete bike with pedals</p>
<p>I paid 20% less for the whole bike than I would have paid for just the components without the frame set at list price.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-3248</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read a lot of forum posts and shopped around a bit and finally decided to buy a Motobecane LeChampion Ti.  The amount of assembly required was very little - but does require some common sense and mechanical skill.  You also need to know enough about how to fit your bike to decide on stem position (spacers and orientation of stem for bar height).  If you buy at the LBS (local bike shop) you will pay twice as much for the bike but they will adjust things for you.  If you don&#039;t know how to do the setup, you could pay the LBS to setup your bike that you bought online - but expect them to hold your online bike in contempt.

I bought the team version with carbon steer tube so this requires a bit of mechanical ability and common sense.  You don&#039;t want too much torque when clamping onto a carbon tube.  If you get a carbon frame or carbon seatpost (etc) you need to know how to tighten things enough to hold without tightening so much you crush the carbon.  I bet BikesDirect have a lot of people cracking the carbon seat tube the first day they get their bike and overtighten the seatpost clamp.

The bike is a beauty and everyone comments on it. It is very light, shifts like a dream, rides really well.  I couldn&#039;t be happier with my bike.  Well, I may try a better saddle - but otherwise everything is perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a lot of forum posts and shopped around a bit and finally decided to buy a Motobecane LeChampion Ti.  The amount of assembly required was very little &#8211; but does require some common sense and mechanical skill.  You also need to know enough about how to fit your bike to decide on stem position (spacers and orientation of stem for bar height).  If you buy at the LBS (local bike shop) you will pay twice as much for the bike but they will adjust things for you.  If you don&#8217;t know how to do the setup, you could pay the LBS to setup your bike that you bought online &#8211; but expect them to hold your online bike in contempt.</p>
<p>I bought the team version with carbon steer tube so this requires a bit of mechanical ability and common sense.  You don&#8217;t want too much torque when clamping onto a carbon tube.  If you get a carbon frame or carbon seatpost (etc) you need to know how to tighten things enough to hold without tightening so much you crush the carbon.  I bet BikesDirect have a lot of people cracking the carbon seat tube the first day they get their bike and overtighten the seatpost clamp.</p>
<p>The bike is a beauty and everyone comments on it. It is very light, shifts like a dream, rides really well.  I couldn&#8217;t be happier with my bike.  Well, I may try a better saddle &#8211; but otherwise everything is perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-3185</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Carlos, thanks so much for the review of your Champion LTD. It would be great if you could send us a picture of this bike, so all our readers could see your machine. We all have the same problem with wheels. It is perhaps the best improvement you can do at any bike.  That&#039;s for sure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Carlos, thanks so much for the review of your Champion LTD. It would be great if you could send us a picture of this bike, so all our readers could see your machine. We all have the same problem with wheels. It is perhaps the best improvement you can do at any bike.  That&#8217;s for sure!</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Maiz</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-3173</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Maiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 2011 motobecane le champion LTD. Carbon frame with ultegra components mavik askium race wheels. FSA SLK light megaexo crank.   This is my first road bike I dont see many Motobecane except one guy in the group ride.  It makes you wonder but when I compare. They are all the same.  Frames made in Asia. Taiwan to be more exact.  Dont know what factory. But to my understanding there are just a few for the whole industry so other well known brands are boumd to be made there.  The company does not sponsor any teams or expend millions in wind tunnels etc but so what.  Bike shop tend to sneeker them. But for no real good reason.  Personally I can tell you is that they are light, strong and ride well as well as dampen vibration.  The best upgrade that one can make is better wheels but that goes for a lot of the highend bikes that are sold with low end wheels anyway.  This I have heard from people in the know of the sport.   Bikesdirect seems to be a reputable company. I had no issues with my purchase or delivery.  Sure I made adjustments such wider handlebar and three saddles later found one that fits the bill.  But again this goes for any model.  I am looking into getting better wheels just to improve speed.  My vanity I guess.  Cost of highend wheels are more than the whole bike. I&#039;ll try to keep it reasonable.  I would love to try their titanium frames.  All I heard is good things.                So go ahead give them a try. I don&#039;t think you will be sorry.                   Enjoy the sport</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 2011 motobecane le champion LTD. Carbon frame with ultegra components mavik askium race wheels. FSA SLK light megaexo crank.   This is my first road bike I dont see many Motobecane except one guy in the group ride.  It makes you wonder but when I compare. They are all the same.  Frames made in Asia. Taiwan to be more exact.  Dont know what factory. But to my understanding there are just a few for the whole industry so other well known brands are boumd to be made there.  The company does not sponsor any teams or expend millions in wind tunnels etc but so what.  Bike shop tend to sneeker them. But for no real good reason.  Personally I can tell you is that they are light, strong and ride well as well as dampen vibration.  The best upgrade that one can make is better wheels but that goes for a lot of the highend bikes that are sold with low end wheels anyway.  This I have heard from people in the know of the sport.   Bikesdirect seems to be a reputable company. I had no issues with my purchase or delivery.  Sure I made adjustments such wider handlebar and three saddles later found one that fits the bill.  But again this goes for any model.  I am looking into getting better wheels just to improve speed.  My vanity I guess.  Cost of highend wheels are more than the whole bike. I&#8217;ll try to keep it reasonable.  I would love to try their titanium frames.  All I heard is good things.                So go ahead give them a try. I don&#8217;t think you will be sorry.                   Enjoy the sport</p>
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		<title>By: Damon</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-3128</link>
		<dc:creator>Damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess we all feel nervous when a product is so much cheaper than what we see in stores.  I to am questioning why so cheap, but I have noticed most companies that dont advertise and not in most stroes are much cheaper than your normal store bought brand.  The consumer is not being forced to pay for advertisement cost, commission, shipping etc... that you normally have to pay at a local bike store.  I am also about to purchase a Motobecane Hybrid comfort bike.  I checked the specs and the specs all match or beat the big names like Trek and others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess we all feel nervous when a product is so much cheaper than what we see in stores.  I to am questioning why so cheap, but I have noticed most companies that dont advertise and not in most stroes are much cheaper than your normal store bought brand.  The consumer is not being forced to pay for advertisement cost, commission, shipping etc&#8230; that you normally have to pay at a local bike store.  I am also about to purchase a Motobecane Hybrid comfort bike.  I checked the specs and the specs all match or beat the big names like Trek and others.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-1491</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just purchased a Motobecane Ti Champion SL and it is being delivered tomorrow.  All ultegra 6700 parts and Mavic Wheels.  I&#039;m 6&#039;0&quot; and currently just over 240 Lbs....with a goal of getting below 200 over the coming months.  Wonder if the weight will be any kind of an issue for the bike ???

I bought from BikesDirect.com and they&#039;ve been great to deal with.  I originally bought a 59cm bike, which turned out to be a bit too big.  They&#039;re swapping it for the 56cm bike....with NO HASSLE WHATSOEVER.  

I&#039;ll write again after I&#039;ve put a few miles on it.  Right now, I&#039;m just really looking forward to getting the bike and enjoying some early spring riding.

John
Michigan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just purchased a Motobecane Ti Champion SL and it is being delivered tomorrow.  All ultegra 6700 parts and Mavic Wheels.  I&#8217;m 6&#8217;0&#8243; and currently just over 240 Lbs&#8230;.with a goal of getting below 200 over the coming months.  Wonder if the weight will be any kind of an issue for the bike ???</p>
<p>I bought from BikesDirect.com and they&#8217;ve been great to deal with.  I originally bought a 59cm bike, which turned out to be a bit too big.  They&#8217;re swapping it for the 56cm bike&#8230;.with NO HASSLE WHATSOEVER.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll write again after I&#8217;ve put a few miles on it.  Right now, I&#8217;m just really looking forward to getting the bike and enjoying some early spring riding.</p>
<p>John<br />
Michigan</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Swilley</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-1475</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Swilley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a chance to purchase a Motobecane Jubilee Trail 7005 AL Bike.  Can anyone give me any info on this bike.
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a chance to purchase a Motobecane Jubilee Trail 7005 AL Bike.  Can anyone give me any info on this bike.<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: david klein</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-1446</link>
		<dc:creator>david klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have purchased a Moto Immortal Team - and it&#039;s probably the best bike purchase I&#039;ve ever made. At $2,799 the price is hard to beat - I have a Serotta Ti/Carbon mix with ultegra and it&#039;s not a match to the Moto. Great bike - high quality and my best to Moto on their continued growth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have purchased a Moto Immortal Team &#8211; and it&#8217;s probably the best bike purchase I&#8217;ve ever made. At $2,799 the price is hard to beat &#8211; I have a Serotta Ti/Carbon mix with ultegra and it&#8217;s not a match to the Moto. Great bike &#8211; high quality and my best to Moto on their continued growth</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-1385</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I purchased an Immortal Force around the end of October for a beginner bike to get me into the road bike scene. This bike is great I go on midweek sprints and weekend rides and have no problem keeping up the guys ridding all the latest name brand bikes with thousands of $$ in upgrades. I did swap out the seat for a fizik but that’s for comfort on the long rides. I’m 6&#039;1&quot; and 205lbs; this bike has no problem during climbs or in a sprint and descends quite well. If your ne to the sport and want a bike that will grow with you then this is a great starting point. I ride with a guy that has two motos (sprint and a phantom cx) he loves them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I purchased an Immortal Force around the end of October for a beginner bike to get me into the road bike scene. This bike is great I go on midweek sprints and weekend rides and have no problem keeping up the guys ridding all the latest name brand bikes with thousands of $$ in upgrades. I did swap out the seat for a fizik but that’s for comfort on the long rides. I’m 6&#8217;1&#8243; and 205lbs; this bike has no problem during climbs or in a sprint and descends quite well. If your ne to the sport and want a bike that will grow with you then this is a great starting point. I ride with a guy that has two motos (sprint and a phantom cx) he loves them.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Savarese</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-1283</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Savarese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 02:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s go the other way. So often with Motobecane you hear people say they are an unknown of questionable quality, and so must keep the price low just to entice anyone to buy. Not so, I am a teacher who wanted an entry level training bike to keep in my classroom so as to ride after work. Well, my 2009 Motobecane Mirage Sport fills the bill quite well. I have put several thousand miles on it with nary an issue.  The bike is an excellent value, and has held up very well. Best of all, I have the support of a local shop, Bikes Direct of Gilbert, AZ., which sells and services these bikes, all to my satisfaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s go the other way. So often with Motobecane you hear people say they are an unknown of questionable quality, and so must keep the price low just to entice anyone to buy. Not so, I am a teacher who wanted an entry level training bike to keep in my classroom so as to ride after work. Well, my 2009 Motobecane Mirage Sport fills the bill quite well. I have put several thousand miles on it with nary an issue.  The bike is an excellent value, and has held up very well. Best of all, I have the support of a local shop, Bikes Direct of Gilbert, AZ., which sells and services these bikes, all to my satisfaction.</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-1119</link>
		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My bike handles very well.  It is a true road/racing bike.  Any little movement of your hands or body will show up in the bike immediately. You have to be careful when making quick moves to make sure the bike tracks straight.  I am used to it now and it isn&#039;t a problem.  My bike weights with took kit right at 15lbs.
I ride the bike with 145psi in the tires and it still rides smooth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bike handles very well.  It is a true road/racing bike.  Any little movement of your hands or body will show up in the bike immediately. You have to be careful when making quick moves to make sure the bike tracks straight.  I am used to it now and it isn&#8217;t a problem.  My bike weights with took kit right at 15lbs.<br />
I ride the bike with 145psi in the tires and it still rides smooth</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-1118</link>
		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To update my post on the motobecane bikes,  my bike is the Immortal Team instead of the Immortal Pro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To update my post on the motobecane bikes,  my bike is the Immortal Team instead of the Immortal Pro.</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-1117</link>
		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a new Motobecane Immortal Pro full Dura Ace 7900. Dura Ace brakes, shifters, pedals ( full pkg )  This is the orange painted bike.  I am 6&#039; 1&quot; tall, weigh 215 lbs.  I have almost 500 miles on this bike.  Bike rides wonderful! ( 145 psi tires )  I would reccomend it to anyone.  Most bike stores rate this bike at a value of around 5K.  I recently rented a Pinarello Prince bike to compare for three days.  The Prince was a little stiffer in the rear end, but not enough to justify 4K for a new frame. I paid less than 3K for my whole bike.
The only problem on my bike has been adjusting the cables to get the shifting smooth.  Takes about 4 times it seems to get it really smooth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a new Motobecane Immortal Pro full Dura Ace 7900. Dura Ace brakes, shifters, pedals ( full pkg )  This is the orange painted bike.  I am 6&#8242; 1&#8243; tall, weigh 215 lbs.  I have almost 500 miles on this bike.  Bike rides wonderful! ( 145 psi tires )  I would reccomend it to anyone.  Most bike stores rate this bike at a value of around 5K.  I recently rented a Pinarello Prince bike to compare for three days.  The Prince was a little stiffer in the rear end, but not enough to justify 4K for a new frame. I paid less than 3K for my whole bike.<br />
The only problem on my bike has been adjusting the cables to get the shifting smooth.  Takes about 4 times it seems to get it really smooth.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-648</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have a 32 year old motobecane mirage.  it is in excellent condition.  can anyone tell me anything about its valuethanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have a 32 year old motobecane mirage.  it is in excellent condition.  can anyone tell me anything about its valuethanks</p>
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		<title>By: Zoom zoom</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-634</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoom zoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone tell me how this bike rides/handles?Also, how heavy is this bike?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone tell me how this bike rides/handles?Also, how heavy is this bike?</p>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want a road bike under $1000. The best specs on a bike i can find are all motobecane. Why are they so cheap and are they really a great value? Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want a road bike under $1000. The best specs on a bike i can find are all motobecane. Why are they so cheap and are they really a great value? Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just look up Kinesis Industry Co. Ltd. they make frame for just about every one form trek to diamondback.Do they use the higher end frames for moto bikes? one would think but, who knows. One thing is for sure,overall they make great frames.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just look up Kinesis Industry Co. Ltd. they make frame for just about every one form trek to diamondback.Do they use the higher end frames for moto bikes? one would think but, who knows. One thing is for sure,overall they make great frames.</p>
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		<title>By: Alastair Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-479</link>
		<dc:creator>Alastair Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guys,Yes Zack it would be a great bike for her to get into the sport.Jim, they seem well made bikes, at your weight you might be taking a chance on carbon? If it was me I would get one and if it broke, well put it down to experience, if you can afford it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys,Yes Zack it would be a great bike for her to get into the sport.Jim, they seem well made bikes, at your weight you might be taking a chance on carbon? If it was me I would get one and if it broke, well put it down to experience, if you can afford it?</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-461</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My girlfriend is a beginner rider who wants to trail ride and do a few triathlons. Is the Motobecane Elite an okay choice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My girlfriend is a beginner rider who wants to trail ride and do a few triathlons. Is the Motobecane Elite an okay choice?</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently bought a my new bikes and this ride is awesome...I have been riding bicycles since I was young so I know how the feel of each one of them...But I can guaranteed that my new 700 HT rides smooth with the proper care and right adjustments...I recommend Motobecane bikes  for those people who wants to buy their new ride...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently bought a my new bikes and this ride is awesome&#8230;I have been riding bicycles since I was young so I know how the feel of each one of them&#8230;But I can guaranteed that my new 700 HT rides smooth with the proper care and right adjustments&#8230;I recommend Motobecane bikes  for those people who wants to buy their new ride&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Moten</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/Motobecane_Bikes.html#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Moten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok,Bikesdirect got the Immortal w/full Dura-Ace 7800 20spd. I&#039;m 6ft,250 but to look at me you can&#039;t tell that cause I look at least 25lbs lighter(people are shocked when I tell them my true weight)21% body fat and 52yrs old. I&#039;m a B+ rider and sprinting is my specialty, the young guys chase me all the time. I ride a Specialized Allez and want to try Carbon. Can the Immortal handle me? Thanks Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok,Bikesdirect got the Immortal w/full Dura-Ace 7800 20spd. I&#8217;m 6ft,250 but to look at me you can&#8217;t tell that cause I look at least 25lbs lighter(people are shocked when I tell them my true weight)21% body fat and 52yrs old. I&#8217;m a B+ rider and sprinting is my specialty, the young guys chase me all the time. I ride a Specialized Allez and want to try Carbon. Can the Immortal handle me? Thanks Jim</p>
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